A Mystery

Aug. 3rd, 2011 01:27 pm
tinhuviel: (Bible)
[personal profile] tinhuviel
During my time on Earth, visiting various locales and encountering different people and cultures, I have found a strange connection between mainstream religions, ignorance, and an obsession with sports. The more entrenched in mainstream religion (like fundamentalism) an area is, the less that area focuses on real education and the more the people glorify sports (like local football in South Carolina). I've seen this connection time and time again, but the reason for it eludes me. I've yet to hear the lost Sermon on the Mount where Jesus gives Friday night's high school football scores with a fervour like he was channeling dear ole dad himself.

Date: 2011-08-03 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] polypolyglot.livejournal.com
I keep thinking that NASCAR had its origins with Roman chariots when people got bored. On the other hand, you never see Amish buggies being run in a leftwards circle at high speed...

Date: 2011-08-03 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinhuviel.livejournal.com
The Amish are too busy working for such hilarity. LOL

Date: 2011-08-03 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qt3-14159.livejournal.com
The horses would get dizzy, silly. ;o)

Date: 2011-08-03 05:37 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-08-03 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evcelt.livejournal.com
I might actually watch that.

Date: 2011-08-03 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinhuviel.livejournal.com
hahaha, honestly, so would I.

Date: 2011-08-03 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qt3-14159.livejournal.com
I'm a Christian and I don't know anything about the educational vs. religion...but I don't doubt it. One of the reasons I don't go to church is because I've had enough people telling me what God thinks. I can read, thank you. And I got tired of judgemental people. I happen to believe that is the most anti-Christian you can get.

And if you find that lost sermon, lemme know. I'd love to show my father. He'd probably come up with an excuse for it. And then I could tell you why. ;o)

Date: 2011-08-03 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinhuviel.livejournal.com
For me, there's a big difference between Christianity and xtianity (thus the spelling). And fundamentalism is just a horrid, dangerous cult unto itself. I guess being stuck in this mire and seeing it first hand all the freakin' time, not to mention that two of my closest friends have recently been sucked into the fundy trap, has me feeling very antagonistic toward the way things are around here.
Edited Date: 2011-08-03 05:37 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-08-03 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qt3-14159.livejournal.com
::hugs::
There IS a difference. My father wasn't pleased with our most recent conversation via telephone. He asked me if I was going to church and I told him that we'd gone over that, and he knew I wasn't. He got the saddest tone in his voice and told me that I needed to go so I could get closer to God. To which I replied, "God and I have a fantastic relationship...and that's what it's about. Relationship." He said nothing for a full minute, at least. Then he changed the subject.
I'm evil.

Date: 2011-08-03 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinhuviel.livejournal.com
According to the chosen few, most of us are nothing but pure evil. ::shrugs:: All the more reason to hope 2012 brings the Alpaca Lips. An end to the nonsense finally! Or at least that's what I hope.

Date: 2011-08-03 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qt3-14159.livejournal.com
Alpaca Lips!! ::grin:: My new favorite things to say!!!!!!!

Date: 2011-08-03 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sapphirescarlet.livejournal.com
Ooooh. I LIKE your brain. We think a lot alike.

Date: 2011-08-03 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qt3-14159.livejournal.com
Well...there are two of us...which means we're right, right?

Date: 2011-08-04 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sapphirescarlet.livejournal.com
I'm sure it must!

Date: 2011-08-03 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] polypolyglot.livejournal.com
While I have been told that Friday Night Lights is great television, the very idea of high school football being fetishized just makes me ill.

I'd rather watch something that makes me think about preparing for the Alpaca Lips: BSG, Jericho, Falling Skies...

Date: 2011-08-03 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinhuviel.livejournal.com
And this is why you and I could watch telly together.

Date: 2011-08-03 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angstzeit.livejournal.com
I think it's about "the group." A group with limited knowledge, a strict belief system, and a ritualistic outlet for violence is easier to keep together and manage. Humans like groups, they feel safe in them. Most humans naturally fall into group subservience and most others will put the necessary effort in to feigning it.

We're hairless apes after all. And, unless you subscribe to Jeff Schwartz's theory, are more chimp-like than Orang-like.

Date: 2011-08-03 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinhuviel.livejournal.com
I think you have a distinct point, there, Mister.

Date: 2011-08-03 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angstzeit.livejournal.com
Other than the one at the top of my head?

Date: 2011-08-03 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinhuviel.livejournal.com
The head point is something that we share, I assure you!

Date: 2011-08-04 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyana5.livejournal.com
YES! I fully agree! It always baffles me how folks foam at the mouth with glee or disgust, cheering like they won the lottery or lost a loved one, all because of The Game. Um, "we" won? I didn't see your ass on the team, spectator! And by the gods, don't actually be on the team, where it's life or death if you make a mistake. And yes, far too many thinking God wanted them to win. No thanks.

Date: 2011-08-04 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qt3-14159.livejournal.com
I HATE it when people say things like "They won because God wanted them to." Yes, I've heard that. I'm a Christian and I firmly believe that there are some things God doesn't care about. Try telling my father that. He'd freak.

But...
God doesn't care which pair of pants I put on in the morning.
God doesn't care if I go get a new cell phone.
God doesn't care what time I go to bed...or if I stay up all night.
God doesn't care what I have for dinner (as long as it's not my ten year old son I've decided to roast over the grill...that, I believe, He would take offense to).
And God doesn't care who wins the flippin' football game.

My father would argue that.

Date: 2011-08-04 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
It's always about us vs. them. Sports. Finances. Security. "It's okay because you're one of us." But which "us" are they talking about? A member of your family, church, small town, metro area, state, country, political party, hobby group, fandom...

I've always found it weird how the size of the stage determines how finely tuned are tribal instinct is. In your little town, it's this Baptist church against that one. But on a bigger stage, it's protestant versus Catholic. And later, Christian vs. Muslim. Anyway...

A certain kind of person has a stronger sense of us than another kind. Conservatives are the ones we always call xenophobes. Racist, selfish, whatever. Anyone not like them is wrong. Liberals are generally more tolerant and accepting of others.

Date: 2011-08-04 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinhuviel.livejournal.com
It's that us vs. them attitude I'm hoping will result in our ultimate demise.

A Mystery

Date: 2011-08-04 04:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mother-unit.livejournal.com
Maybe this will help solve the mystery and maybe even tickle your funnybone. It did mine.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=religious-experiences-shrink-part-of-brain

Re: A Mystery

Date: 2011-08-04 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinhuviel.livejournal.com
**snork** thanks for that!

Date: 2011-08-04 03:11 pm (UTC)
gatheringrivers: (Cats - Evil Laugh)
From: [personal profile] gatheringrivers
My thought:

Sports involves conflict (team A vs. team B)
Religion involves conflict ("us" vs. "them")

The more they think alike.....

...explains wrestling, doesn't it? *twitch*

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