And I Reiterate

[tinhuviel]

I made this statement in a post dated 31 December, 2004, and I stand by it.

On another movie note, I want to state for the record that there will never be a decent Batman since Michael Keaton. Period. Film makers need not even attempt it any longer. Michael Keaton will always be Batman. No one, and I mean no one, can say "I'm Batman" like Michael Keaton. Get the fuck over it.

And I now add:
Every Batman movie that has been made without Michael Keaton should have credits that read

Batman played by not Michael Keaton

I'm sorry, but that's just how I feel. Now, I've heard nothing but good things about the new movie Batman Begins and I'm really keen on seeing the Martial Arts in the movie, but Michael Keaton isn't in it.....so I won't be seeing it.

Hell yes, it's narrow-minded of me. Hell no, I don't care!

I went to see the first Batman with an ungodly amount of pessimism on my shoulders. I didn't believe Mr. Mom could be Batman. I was wrong. I was so wrong. Wrong enough to become so faithful to Keaton's Batman, that I refuse to give into the entertainment industry's attempts to draw me into the Dark Knight's world again. Even Jim Carrey as The Riddler couldn't pull me away from the real Batman.

I'm sure Christian Bale makes a fine Bruce Wayne but, for my part, he can shove the Batmobile up his arse. He's not BATMAN. He never will be. Only Keaton. Forever and always, amen.

Comments

[miintikwa.livejournal.com]

*squees and hugs you*

Was just having this very same discussion over in yendi's journal.

Love yendi to bits, but am having a hard time believing that Batman Begins is going to be any good.

Michael Keaton is Gawd. I have such a heart-on for him. Have you seen My Life? *sigh* *Keaton-lust*

[tinhuviel.livejournal.com]

Yes, I saw that movie and it made my eyes leak tremendously.

[miintikwa.livejournal.com]

Keaton is SUCH an amazing actor. It's a freakin' crime that he hasn't won mountains of awards.

[clauderainsrm.livejournal.com]

to quote Dr. Cox: "wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong - you're wrong, wrong"

Bale should be good. Great? who knows.

Not that Keaton was any slacker in either the Batman or Bruce Wayne roles (he was surprisingly good) he just wasn't BATMAN.

[tinhuviel.livejournal.com]

You're so wrong it makes me cry. I hate to cry.

[clauderainsrm.livejournal.com]

You're so wrong it makes you cry.

[tinhuviel.livejournal.com]

You err gravely in your logic. It's time you removed yourself from the gene pool.

[clauderainsrm.livejournal.com]

see that's what's so wrong with your logic - I wasn't in the gene pool to begin with! I can't swim!!!

[philrancid.livejournal.com]

it was a good movie--but I didn't like Bale as Batman. And I even like Bale.

[tinhuviel.livejournal.com]

You validate my position.

[philrancid.livejournal.com]

Oh shit--then I retract my statments entirely!!

You should at least dig on it when it hits video. That's how good the rest of it is. Just view it as us comicheads view certain one-offs on their favorite titles: It's a quick riff, and while it might not be The Shit, it's still decent. I mean, for fuck's sake, they got Gary Oldman to play a good guy!

[tinhuviel.livejournal.com]

Nope. I haven't seen a Batman movie since "Batman Returns" and I intend on keeping it that way until Batman (Michael Keaton) returns.

[philrancid.livejournal.com]

Tha's it--I'm'll hatta sic th'chikins on ya.

[tinhuviel.livejournal.com]

No....not the chikins.

[philrancid.livejournal.com]

(Evil Redneck Overlord Mode)

YEEEHA!!!

THE CHIKINS!!!

HAWHAWHAWHAWHAW!!

Gitter, boys, hot-DAYUM!!

[tinhuviel.livejournal.com]

Noooooooo!!!!!

[the-gil-monster.livejournal.com]

...That's a good way to live. Really.

I mean, I heard the new Batman film was incredible, but it's a fair trade-off to sacrifice that AND never see "Batman Forever" or the execrable- no, cockroaches are execrable. "Batman and Robin" is hated with all the ferocity of a thousand blood-crazed sharks.

True story: I got waved through at a drunk-driving checkpoint after returning from that movie. I hadn't been drinking, but I WAS painfully propped up by the steering wheel and I exasperatedly told the officer "WE JUST GOT OUT OF 'BATMAN AND ROBIN' AND WE WANT TO GO HOME!!!" Astrida was stunned that I wasn't breathalyzed on the spot.

One friend of mine saw it at the dollar theatre- and demanded his dollar back. He got it.

Nothing more universally loathsome than "Batman and Robin" ever hit our theatres until Jar Jar Binks first sashayed out of the Naboo Swamps.

[tinhuviel.livejournal.com]

If I'm ever stopped by the cops again, I'll use that excuse. :)

As for Jar Jar Binks, I think he was the precursor to that wretched hive of scum and villainy Ben Kenobi goes on about in EPIV. He is the worst thing that ever happened to Hollywood.

[teague.livejournal.com]

hehehehe....Chikins. Nuff said.

[tinhuviel.livejournal.com]

Noooo!

[ravien.livejournal.com]

but he's freakin Beetlejuice!!!

oh well...means more batsex for me and Christian :P

[tinhuviel.livejournal.com]

Yep, guess it does. Ew!

[misterclever.livejournal.com]

Anyone other than Keaton speaking the words

"I'm Batman,"

- isn't.

[tinhuviel.livejournal.com]

Thank you very much! You said everything I wanted to say in just a few short words. I bow to your eloquence.

[the-gil-monster.livejournal.com]

I thought Michael Keaton actually made a pretty decent Batman, but for my money, there's only one true Batman. And that is...

Kevin Conroy.

Who has voiced the animated Batman for the last decade or so.

He.
IS.
Batman.

[tinhuviel.livejournal.com]

Never have I seen the animated show, so I can't agree or disagree with any certainty. I'll take your word for it on an animation level but, in RL, it's Keaton.

[the-gil-monster.livejournal.com]

...Too bad. You're cheating yourself. :) Not to argue with your Michael Keaton stance, mind you.

Either check out any one of the episodes of Batman: The Animated Series, or catch an episode of Justice League. Better still: rent "Batman: Mask Of The Phantasm," which for my money is the best Batman movie ever made.

And hey: Mark Hamill as The Joker.

[tinhuviel.livejournal.com]

I'll have to check it out. I'm not averse to watching animation w/o Mr. Keaton.

[aka-twitch.livejournal.com]

You speak The Truth.

[walkinlikecain.livejournal.com]

Keaton was a good batman...but I am not really a Batman fan - if I wanted to see a hero hang out with a small boy - I'd be catholic...

[tinhuviel.livejournal.com]

That's the funniest thing I've read in some time.

[onyxblue1.livejournal.com]

I have only two words for you.



Thank you very much.

[tinhuviel.livejournal.com]

uh


no.

[green-goblin70.livejournal.com]

If you were wrong before...couldn't you be wrong again???

Oh yeah...and you are.

Not only is Christian Bale Batman he is also Bruce Wayne. Something that Keaton I'm sure could do, but never got the oppurtunity.

[tinhuviel.livejournal.com]

Did you even SEE the first movie? Did you pay attention?

Keaton was Wayne and Batman 1000%. Get your head out of your ass (oops, I meant comic book) and wake the fuck up.

[green-goblin70.livejournal.com]

I OWN the first movie. Perhaps if you had a little comic book background you could see how mistaken you were.

Set your alarm clock and wake up. Listening to all that ELO and such has dulled your brain.

[falkenna.livejournal.com]

Having missed the boat on this thread, I'm posting twice so that Green Goblin will also get it by email.

Tin, it is your right to feel that way about Keaton's Batman, but have you considered he's really too old to play him now? Disdain Kilmer and Clooney if you will, but to hold on now, is like saying you won't watch any vampire movies because Bela Lugosi's dead (undead undead undead).

But I am confused about why everybody is now saying "Yay, they've finally made him dark like the comic". Well, when the first movie came out, they were all saying, "We didn't think they would make it dark like the comic, **but they did**"

So what's up? Short memories? Or has the world gone so downhill that the entire benchmark for "dark" has shifted??

[tinhuviel.livejournal.com]

I'm too much of a stickler. Give me a middle-aged, plump Batman....just as long as he's Keaton.

[falkenna.livejournal.com]

Having missed the boat on this thread, I'm posting twice so that Green Goblin will also get it by email.

Tin, it is your right to feel that way about Keaton's Batman, but have you considered he's really too old to play him now? Disdain Kilmer and Clooney if you will, but to hold on now, is like saying you won't watch any vampire movies because Bela Lugosi's dead (undead undead undead).

But I am confused about why everybody is now saying "Yay, they've finally made him dark like the comic". Well, when the first movie came out, they were all saying, "We didn't think they would make it dark like the comic, **but they did**"

So what's up? Short memories? Or has the world gone so downhill that the entire benchmark for "dark" has shifted??